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Elouise 1 year ago
#20 Alec Baldwin literally shot someone to death for real, somehow nobody seems to remember this
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Hopkins 1 year ago
Elouise,
He didn't "shoot someone to death for real," @$$hat. He performed the scene exactly as instructed and exactly how countless actors have done before him, but the gun had a live round in it. There's a whole string of events that led up to the incident, and none of it was his fault. It also wasn't the first time it's ever happened. Remember Brandon Lee?
He didn't "shoot someone to death for real," @$$hat. He performed the scene exactly as instructed and exactly how countless actors have done before him, but the gun had a live round in it. There's a whole string of events that led up to the incident, and none of it was his fault. It also wasn't the first time it's ever happened. Remember Brandon Lee?
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Muriel 1 year ago
Hopkins,
It is definitely his fault. Basic rule of gun safety: check every weapon to see if it's loaded. You don't trust what another person says, you don't trust a paper record. YOU check. And if you haven't, you assume the weapon is hot.
You also make sure that you are familiar with the weapon's functions. The pistol he used has a known mechanical feature that frees the hammer while holding the trigger (enables "fanning"), which is how he ND'd and killed someone.
It is definitely his fault. Basic rule of gun safety: check every weapon to see if it's loaded. You don't trust what another person says, you don't trust a paper record. YOU check. And if you haven't, you assume the weapon is hot.
You also make sure that you are familiar with the weapon's functions. The pistol he used has a known mechanical feature that frees the hammer while holding the trigger (enables "fanning"), which is how he ND'd and killed someone.
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Eben 1 year ago
Muriel,
All of that is literally the responsibility of the people who hand it to him. There's one person who checks the ammo and loads it. They then hand it to another person who readies the weapon and checks its functionality. That person hands it to the actor, and the actor trusts everyone before him and does his job, which is to act.
This is how it's done EVERY TIME, on EVERY SET, on EVERY MOVIE. The actor doesn't have the need or the time to redo all of the work of the people before them. The actors ONLY JOB is to stay in character and perform their scene.
All actors take classes before filming those types of movies so they know how to realistically handle the guns. That's all they need to know.
DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR SELF-RIGHTEOUS MOUTH.
All of that is literally the responsibility of the people who hand it to him. There's one person who checks the ammo and loads it. They then hand it to another person who readies the weapon and checks its functionality. That person hands it to the actor, and the actor trusts everyone before him and does his job, which is to act.
This is how it's done EVERY TIME, on EVERY SET, on EVERY MOVIE. The actor doesn't have the need or the time to redo all of the work of the people before them. The actors ONLY JOB is to stay in character and perform their scene.
All actors take classes before filming those types of movies so they know how to realistically handle the guns. That's all they need to know.
DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR SELF-RIGHTEOUS MOUTH.
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Midge 1 year ago
Eben,
research? source? all i see is your rhetoric of anecdotes of what you assume happens on every movie set ever.
research? source? all i see is your rhetoric of anecdotes of what you assume happens on every movie set ever.
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Lavonne 1 year ago
Eben,
It is ALWAYS the responsibility of the person holding the weapon to clear it. Period.
It is ALWAYS the responsibility of the person holding the weapon to clear it. Period.
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Lavonne 1 year ago
#20 But when someone is murdered with a hammer, car, or knife - we don't say "we have a hammer/car/knife problem in this country". More people are killed with hammers than rifles but you don't see a push for "sensible hammer control laws".
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Nibby 1 year ago
Lavonne,
The problem is there's more restrictions on alcohol, tobacco, and voting, then there are on guns. Maybe think about sensible priorities, instead of "legally" giving adolescents firearms.
The problem is there's more restrictions on alcohol, tobacco, and voting, then there are on guns. Maybe think about sensible priorities, instead of "legally" giving adolescents firearms.
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Lavonne 1 year ago
Nibby,
You have to be an adult (18 yo) to buy a rifle. You have to be 21 in most states to buy a pistol. At what age do you define adulthood?
Can you point us to the text in the Constitution that guarantees the right to alcohol and tobacco?
You have to be an adult (18 yo) to buy a rifle. You have to be 21 in most states to buy a pistol. At what age do you define adulthood?
Can you point us to the text in the Constitution that guarantees the right to alcohol and tobacco?
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Harman 1 year ago
Dear Lavonne,
google for: murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used. The statista site files under "Number of murder victims in the United States in 2020, by weapon used":
Blunt objects (clubs, hammers etc.): 393
Rifles: 455
Handguns: 8029
google for: murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used. The statista site files under "Number of murder victims in the United States in 2020, by weapon used":
Blunt objects (clubs, hammers etc.): 393
Rifles: 455
Handguns: 8029
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Midge 1 year ago
Harman,
cool so you disproved a moot point. if you got rid of say...2 major cities in the US that number would be insignificant.
cool so you disproved a moot point. if you got rid of say...2 major cities in the US that number would be insignificant.
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Gabe 1 year ago
Dear Midge,
google for: fbi-murders-2020-cities (it seems that I can't put URLs into this comment). The New York Times site summarizes a FBI report. e.g.:
"The wider geographic distribution of killings differs from past decades, Mr. Asher said. In 1990, New York City and Los Angeles accounted for 13.8 percent of the country’s homicides, compared with 3.8 percent in 2020, he said."
Detroit accounts for about 2% of the US killings. Could you please disclose your findings?
google for: fbi-murders-2020-cities (it seems that I can't put URLs into this comment). The New York Times site summarizes a FBI report. e.g.:
"The wider geographic distribution of killings differs from past decades, Mr. Asher said. In 1990, New York City and Los Angeles accounted for 13.8 percent of the country’s homicides, compared with 3.8 percent in 2020, he said."
Detroit accounts for about 2% of the US killings. Could you please disclose your findings?
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Lavonne 1 year ago
Harman,
Your source is wrong. FBI's website shows more homicides with hammers/blunt objects than rifles. Knives & cutting instruments are used more than 3 times as much as rifles.
The point is: if some lunatic kills someone with any weapon, why am I punished for his crime?
Your source is wrong. FBI's website shows more homicides with hammers/blunt objects than rifles. Knives & cutting instruments are used more than 3 times as much as rifles.
The point is: if some lunatic kills someone with any weapon, why am I punished for his crime?
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Jacqueline 1 year ago
#31 "When your team is garbage." Real opportunity missed, there.
He didn't "shoot someone to death for real," @$$hat. He performed the scene exactly as instructed and exactly how countless actors have done before him, but the gun had a live round in it. There's a whole string of events that led up to the incident, and none of it was his fault. It also wasn't the first time it's ever happened. Remember Brandon Lee?
It is definitely his fault. Basic rule of gun safety: check every weapon to see if it's loaded. You don't trust what another person says, you don't trust a paper record. YOU check. And if you haven't, you assume the weapon is hot.
You also make sure that you are familiar with the weapon's functions. The pistol he used has a known mechanical feature that frees the hammer while holding the trigger (enables "fanning"), which is how he ND'd and killed someone.
All of that is literally the responsibility of the people who hand it to him. There's one person who checks the ammo and loads it. They then hand it to another person who readies the weapon and checks its functionality. That person hands it to the actor, and the actor trusts everyone before him and does his job, which is to act.
This is how it's done EVERY TIME, on EVERY SET, on EVERY MOVIE. The actor doesn't have the need or the time to redo all of the work of the people before them. The actors ONLY JOB is to stay in character and perform their scene.
All actors take classes before filming those types of movies so they know how to realistically handle the guns. That's all they need to know.
DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR SELF-RIGHTEOUS MOUTH.
research? source? all i see is your rhetoric of anecdotes of what you assume happens on every movie set ever.
It is ALWAYS the responsibility of the person holding the weapon to clear it. Period.
The problem is there's more restrictions on alcohol, tobacco, and voting, then there are on guns. Maybe think about sensible priorities, instead of "legally" giving adolescents firearms.
You have to be an adult (18 yo) to buy a rifle. You have to be 21 in most states to buy a pistol. At what age do you define adulthood?
Can you point us to the text in the Constitution that guarantees the right to alcohol and tobacco?
google for: murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used. The statista site files under "Number of murder victims in the United States in 2020, by weapon used":
Blunt objects (clubs, hammers etc.): 393
Rifles: 455
Handguns: 8029
cool so you disproved a moot point. if you got rid of say...2 major cities in the US that number would be insignificant.
google for: fbi-murders-2020-cities (it seems that I can't put URLs into this comment). The New York Times site summarizes a FBI report. e.g.:
"The wider geographic distribution of killings differs from past decades, Mr. Asher said. In 1990, New York City and Los Angeles accounted for 13.8 percent of the country’s homicides, compared with 3.8 percent in 2020, he said."
Detroit accounts for about 2% of the US killings. Could you please disclose your findings?
Your source is wrong. FBI's website shows more homicides with hammers/blunt objects than rifles. Knives & cutting instruments are used more than 3 times as much as rifles.
The point is: if some lunatic kills someone with any weapon, why am I punished for his crime?