WTF, dude? I hate putting dichotomies, but this is such a case. 1. The laws of nature don't apply for those corpses. For witch you can't provide a mechanism or explanation, and raises far more questions that it supposedly answers. 2. There is a perfectly reasonable explanation for the phenomena, but real scientists are not allowed to study the corpses. From what I've seen regarding religious miracles its the second. They hate it when skeptics figure out their supposed miracles.
Unfortunately some people just want to believe weird things no matter what the evidence shows
I'd think that if they were scientificly tested (even a simple X-ray would do the trick) most if not all would be proven as fakes. Of course this won't happen anytime soon as they are property of the church and it's in the churches best interest to keep the mystery alive.
It is possible today to create pretty good fakes, but what about in the year 350 or 1660?
Although science is useful, scientists do not know everything. Anyone who thinks we know everything has some serious adjustment coming! (Thus "carefully controlled climate conditions" are *not necessarily a prerequisite* for preservation. There may be other factors. And who even had such conditions over the centuries?)
The bodies should be tested if the issue of fakery is important. I think that it is not all that important.
What disturbs me mostly here, is that those corpses were real people and now their corpses are showed to everyone like some piece of furniture. No respect for the dead. Not that they care, but anyway...
"The bodies should be tested if the issue of fakery is important. I think that it is not all that important." Doug117
Why? Because they are in a church, because clergyman are good people and would never lie? Those corpses (exhibits) make good PR for the church thats why they don't want them tested, if it were from respect for the dead they would never exhibit them in the first place. Skepticism and critical thought are always important, real science stands up to it, frauds don't. NOTHING supernatural has ever been observed, there are things witch we currently might not know, but though the scientific method we manage to understand them.
"Although science is useful, scientists do not know everything." Science never states that it knows everything, only that it strives to understand, through testing and rigorous experimentation, the laws of the universe.....it's religion that tries to say it knows the definitive answers, and, as with Christianity, they use these kinds of things to justify the things they cannot prove....
Most of these were restored with wax or silicone masks to give them a lifelike appearance. St Pio and St Bernadette certainly, I'm sure if it were actually researched you would find that replacing the visible parts of the body with replicas is a common practice with "saintly" corpses.
Saint Bernadette of Lourdes looks more healthy than most of my friends.... SAD. Also, if u want to join these people looking perfect 300 years after u passed along, just eat at McDonalds daily and u will have an guarantee that ppl will look in awe at ur casket several hundred years after u dropped dead.
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Show all commentseven though dead people really really!! scare me something shocking
this list didnt,
allmost all of them looked peacefull
I hate putting dichotomies, but this is such a case.
1. The laws of nature don't apply for those corpses.
For witch you can't provide a mechanism or explanation, and raises far more questions that it supposedly answers.
2. There is a perfectly reasonable explanation for the phenomena, but real scientists are not allowed to study the corpses.
From what I've seen regarding religious miracles its the second.
They hate it when skeptics figure out their supposed miracles.
Unfortunately some people just want to believe weird things no matter what the evidence shows
Although science is useful, scientists do not know everything. Anyone who thinks we know everything has some serious adjustment coming! (Thus "carefully controlled climate conditions" are *not necessarily a prerequisite* for preservation. There may be other factors. And who even had such conditions over the centuries?)
The bodies should be tested if the issue of fakery is important. I think that it is not all that important.
All this is just fake... to make people obedient.
Doug117
Why? Because they are in a church, because clergyman are good people and would never lie?
Those corpses (exhibits) make good PR for the church thats why they don't want them tested, if it were from respect for the dead they would never exhibit them in the first place.
Skepticism and critical thought are always important, real science stands up to it, frauds don't.
NOTHING supernatural has ever been observed, there are things witch we currently might not know, but though the scientific method we manage to understand them.
can i touch them ??
and how they maintain the bodies and there clothes clean?
Science never states that it knows everything, only that it strives to understand, through testing and rigorous experimentation, the laws of the universe.....it's religion that tries to say it knows the definitive answers, and, as with Christianity, they use these kinds of things to justify the things they cannot prove....
And science is more than useful....
for some reason i would also like to touch them and i don't think that my clothes would get to dirty if i was sealed in a box for centuries
the faces are wierd...they look too peaceful..that's not what usually happens..I donno..it doesn't look real..